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November 10, 2023

Chestnut Horse vs. Sorrel Horse: the Nuances of Red

Never have I ever seen such a heated debate as one I saw on Facebook recently. A horse was shown jumping cross country and her owner states that she gets messaged chastising her for calling the mare a chestnut. She is, in fact a sorrel, she was told. A heated debate ensues. Is it chestnut or sorrel!? There was a lot of passion in those replies. Which is right? Who has the final authority on this matter?!

This is not something I would have guessed would be such a heated topic, but people are passionate about what they are calling their red headed equines. 

Myself, spending most of my riding life in northern Virginia, have always called them chestnuts. Everyone I know calls them chestnuts. Every horse care book I read has called them chestnuts. At some point, I must have read what a sorrel was, because I knew, and I did see people calling them sorrel when I was in 4-H, but I still called them chestnuts. It seems completely natural to me that everyone would call them chestnuts. 

But, based on what I just witnessed, that is not the case. Just as I grew up with chestnuts, others must have lived their own lives calling them sorrel. Sorrel was so ingrained in them that the thought of calling them a chestnut was laughable. I even saw someone say, “Chestnuts aren’t horses, they are trees!!! *laughing emoji*”

So how did we get to this point? Why are their two names? What is going on here!?

Genetics Behind the Red Coat

Let’s start with the absolute facts, the laws of nature that are set in stone and cannot be argued.

The red color in horses is caused by the recessive “e” gene. This gene prevents the production of black pigment in the horse’s hair, resulting in a coat that is predominantly red or brown. The intensity of the red color is determined by other genes, with some horses having a lighter shade of red and others having a darker shade. But the main gene is the same.

Keeping this in mind, there is no genetic difference between chestnuts and sorrels. They have the exact same genetic makeup (in the hair color department, obviously they are different in other ways).

There may be modifying genes that change the horse’s color more, resulting in variations of the chestnut gene, but that’s not what I’m talking about in this post, and that would take a whole other post to discuss. 

portrait of chestnut horse head
My own chestnut horse, Stu

Differentiating Chestnut and Sorrel

So, genetically, there is no difference, but I have heard other people (and had thoughts myself) of what the difference between chestnuts and sorrels were. 

Many people go by using the term “sorrel” to describe horses with a lighter shade of red, while “chestnut” is used for horses with a darker shade. However, this distinction is not always clear-cut, and the terms are often used interchangeably. Some registries have decided to just use one or the other, and some, like the American Quarter Horse Association, considers both terms correct. 

As there’s no clear cut answer, the name of the color seems mainly done to regional and cultural differences. For instance, people who ride in an English style discipline typically use the term “chestnut” while those from a western riding background use “sorrel”.

But, it can also be down to regional as well. In some regions, such as the western United States, the term “sorrel” is more commonly used to describe all reddish-brown horses, regardless of shade. In other regions, such as the east coast of America or Great Britain, the term “chestnut” is used more frequently. But, interestingly enough, there’s multiple inns in Great Britain named “Sorrel Horse Inn/Tavern/etc,” which means, aside from looking like an amazing place to visit, also means the term sorrel isn’t specific to the United States. The Anglo-Irish writer Jonathan Switch also has a horse character described as “sorrel,” in his 1726 book Gulliver’s Travels, so the term sorrel has a long history of being used in Europe. It’s believed the word sorrel came from the sorrel plant, which is native to Eurasia. 

Ultimately, I have no idea how both terms came into use, but the distinction between chestnut and sorrel is more of a matter of regional usage than a true genetic difference. Both terms are acceptable for describing horses with reddish-brown coats.

front view of chestnut horse

So, Which is Right?

Where does that leave us? What term are we supposed to use? Is chestnut or sorrel correct? 

I think we’re all going to have to agree to disagree. Just like how soda is called “pop” in some places, we’re just going to have to agree we call the same thing different names. 

But just the same, what do you call it? Are you Team Sorrel or Team Chestnut?

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@thetravelingrider were trying to coordinate our outfits, we were going for: "Modern Ascot Scene in My Fair Lady." How do you think we did?

I was trying to completely make my daughter and I's outfits, but I ran out of time and couldn't finish my own dress. I made Bridgette's dress and both of our hats. As a beginner, I'm pretty happy with how they came out! Just look how elegant my daughter is as she rummages through the cheese. 

The kids liked watching the horses in the paddock, which are apparently more impressive than the horses we already own 😂 Maybe they will be thoroughbred lovers. They also ran in the stick horse race, but two horses baulked so only Bridgette actually completed the race. That didn't stop the boys from weaseling their way into the winners circle photos though! 

We also had an unexpected bonus to this trip. We visited @rescuepetconnect and there was a beautiful little dog that could have been my beloved Paxton's double. I literally cried when I saw her There was no way we could walk away, we adopted her immediately. She's been absolutely wonderful and we are so happy to have her join the family! @rescuepetconnect is a great adoption service and was wonderful to work with. I highly recommend anyone looking for a furry family member to check them out. 

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Great day at @middleburgspringraces ! 

@thetravelingrider were trying to coordinate our outfits, we were going for: "Modern Ascot Scene in My Fair Lady." How do you think we did?

I was trying to completely make my daughter and I's outfits, but I ran out of time and couldn't finish my own dress. I made Bridgette's dress and both of our hats. As a beginner, I'm pretty happy with how they came out! Just look how elegant my daughter is as she rummages through the cheese. 

The kids liked watching the horses in the paddock, which are apparently more impressive than the horses we already own 😂 Maybe they will be thoroughbred lovers. They also ran in the stick horse race, but two horses baulked so only Bridgette actually completed the race. That didn't stop the boys from weaseling their way into the winners circle photos though! 

We also had an unexpected bonus to this trip. We visited @rescuepetconnect and there was a beautiful little dog that could have been my beloved Paxton's double. I literally cried when I saw her There was no way we could walk away, we adopted her immediately. She's been absolutely wonderful and we are so happy to have her join the family! @rescuepetconnect is a great adoption service and was wonderful to work with. I highly recommend anyone looking for a furry family member to check them out. 

This was long, but I'm just so full of emotions! 🥹🥹

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Great day at @middleburgspringraces ! 

@thetravelingrider were trying to coordinate our outfits, we were going for: "Modern Ascot Scene in My Fair Lady." How do you think we did?

I was trying to completely make my daughter and I's outfits, but I ran out of time and couldn't finish my own dress. I made Bridgette's dress and both of our hats. As a beginner, I'm pretty happy with how they came out! Just look how elegant my daughter is as she rummages through the cheese. 

The kids liked watching the horses in the paddock, which are apparently more impressive than the horses we already own 😂 Maybe they will be thoroughbred lovers. They also ran in the stick horse race, but two horses baulked so only Bridgette actually completed the race. That didn't stop the boys from weaseling their way into the winners circle photos though! 

We also had an unexpected bonus to this trip. We visited @rescuepetconnect and there was a beautiful little dog that could have been my beloved Paxton's double. I literally cried when I saw her There was no way we could walk away, we adopted her immediately. She's been absolutely wonderful and we are so happy to have her join the family! @rescuepetconnect is a great adoption service and was wonderful to work with. I highly recommend anyone looking for a furry family member to check them out. 

This was long, but I'm just so full of emotions! 🥹🥹

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Great day at @middleburgspringraces ! 

@thetravelingrider were trying to coordinate our outfits, we were going for: "Modern Ascot Scene in My Fair Lady." How do you think we did?

I was trying to completely make my daughter and I's outfits, but I ran out of time and couldn't finish my own dress. I made Bridgette's dress and both of our hats. As a beginner, I'm pretty happy with how they came out! Just look how elegant my daughter is as she rummages through the cheese. 

The kids liked watching the horses in the paddock, which are apparently more impressive than the horses we already own 😂 Maybe they will be thoroughbred lovers. They also ran in the stick horse race, but two horses baulked so only Bridgette actually completed the race. That didn't stop the boys from weaseling their way into the winners circle photos though! 

We also had an unexpected bonus to this trip. We visited @rescuepetconnect and there was a beautiful little dog that could have been my beloved Paxton's double. I literally cried when I saw her There was no way we could walk away, we adopted her immediately. She's been absolutely wonderful and we are so happy to have her join the family! @rescuepetconnect is a great adoption service and was wonderful to work with. I highly recommend anyone looking for a furry family member to check them out. 

This was long, but I'm just so full of emotions! 🥹🥹

#middleburg #horserace #equestrianlife #horselife #instahorse
Great day at @middleburgspringraces ! 

@thetravelingrider were trying to coordinate our outfits, we were going for: "Modern Ascot Scene in My Fair Lady." How do you think we did?

I was trying to completely make my daughter and I's outfits, but I ran out of time and couldn't finish my own dress. I made Bridgette's dress and both of our hats. As a beginner, I'm pretty happy with how they came out! Just look how elegant my daughter is as she rummages through the cheese. 

The kids liked watching the horses in the paddock, which are apparently more impressive than the horses we already own 😂 Maybe they will be thoroughbred lovers. They also ran in the stick horse race, but two horses baulked so only Bridgette actually completed the race. That didn't stop the boys from weaseling their way into the winners circle photos though! 

We also had an unexpected bonus to this trip. We visited @rescuepetconnect and there was a beautiful little dog that could have been my beloved Paxton's double. I literally cried when I saw her There was no way we could walk away, we adopted her immediately. She's been absolutely wonderful and we are so happy to have her join the family! @rescuepetconnect is a great adoption service and was wonderful to work with. I highly recommend anyone looking for a furry family member to check them out. 

This was long, but I'm just so full of emotions! 🥹🥹

#middleburg #horserace #equestrianlife #horselife #instahorse
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Great day at @middleburgspringraces ! @thetravelingrider were trying to coordinate our outfits, we were going for: "Modern Ascot Scene in My Fair Lady." How do you think we did? I was trying to completely make my daughter and I's outfits, but I ran out of time and couldn't finish my own dress. I made Bridgette's dress and both of our hats. As a beginner, I'm pretty happy with how they came out! Just look how elegant my daughter is as she rummages through the cheese. The kids liked watching the horses in the paddock, which are apparently more impressive than the horses we already own 😂 Maybe they will be thoroughbred lovers. They also ran in the stick horse race, but two horses baulked so only Bridgette actually completed the race. That didn't stop the boys from weaseling their way into the winners circle photos though! We also had an unexpected bonus to this trip. We visited @rescuepetconnect and there was a beautiful little dog that could have been my beloved Paxton's double. I literally cried when I saw her There was no way we could walk away, we adopted her immediately. She's been absolutely wonderful and we are so happy to have her join the family! @rescuepetconnect is a great adoption service and was wonderful to work with. I highly recommend anyone looking for a furry family member to check them out. This was long, but I'm just so full of emotions! 🥹🥹 #middleburg #horserace #equestrianlife #horselife #instahorse
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